Comments on: The Profession that is EMS http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/ This blog is about EMS, and one Paramedic's quest to make this the profession it deserves to be. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:36:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-1695 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:26:05 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-1695 I just re-read that and I want to clarify... I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense. I just re-read that and I want to clarify… I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:21:00 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-1696 I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)<br>But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.<br><br>One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?<br>Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts. I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)
But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.

One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?
Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-845 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:26:05 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-845 I just re-read that and I want to clarify... I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense. I just re-read that and I want to clarify… I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-844 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:21:00 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-844 I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)<br>But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.<br><br>One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?<br>Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts. I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)
But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.

One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?
Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-483 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:26:05 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-483 I just re-read that and I want to clarify... I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense. I just re-read that and I want to clarify… I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-482 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:21:00 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-482 I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)<br>But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.<br><br>One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?<br>Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts. I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)
But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.

One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?
Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-481 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:26:05 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-481 I just re-read that and I want to clarify... I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense. I just re-read that and I want to clarify… I'm not saying Firefighters are dumb. I'm referring to a Fire services' commitment to CE classes and initial training for firefighters who have EMT as a requirement of their department if those educational standards rise. As with any thing, if standards rise, the cost probably will as well. Hope that makes sense.

]]> By: Daniel Green http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-480 Daniel Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:21:00 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-480 I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)<br>But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.<br><br>One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?<br>Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts. I can agree with most of this, but it is moving both ways. I mean EMT-B is becoming easier, while Paramedic becomes more difficult(in my State at least.) For example in Kansas there is more then one High School where EMT-B is an option for Juniors & Seniors who will be 18 at test time, while an A.A.S. in required before taking the State Board exam for paramedic(or MICT here.)
But nothing after that. Which I agree leaves little to no room for advancement, sure I can be like every other Paramedic I know in my state and bridge to an RN so they can get paid more, but If I wanted to be a nurse I would have gone to nursing school and not be getting my ass kicked and never seeing my family by being in a Paramedic program. Luckily Paramedics can make a living wage here due to the cost of living in most counties.

One question for you, what about Stand alone fire services? Here in Kansas MOST EMS services are stand alone County-based. In Wichita (where I live, the largest City) Fire responds to most EMS calls. EMT-B in a min for the Fire Dept. If you make EMT harder educationally do you run the risk of back-lash from fire services that supplement EMS? Do you hurt the volunteer services who are already having a hard time finding people willing to do something for nothing, much less spend $1000 and and a college semester doing an EMT-B class to get paid nothing?
Not that I disagree, just curious of your thoughts.

]]> By: Ckemtp http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-479 Ckemtp Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:23:50 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-479 This is an older post that I hope to give a bump to my new wider audience by commenting on. It's an early look at EMS 2.0 This is an older post that I hope to give a bump to my new wider audience by commenting on. It's an early look at EMS 2.0

]]> By: Pat http://lifeunderthelights.com/2009/04/the-profession-that-is-ems/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Pat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:16:00 +0000 http://livingunderthelights9dev.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/the-profession-that-is-ems#comment-19 Well written. I remember . . . Well written. I remember . . .

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