Comments on: A Slap in the Face for Medics? How about a Wake-up call http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/ This blog is about EMS, and one Paramedic's quest to make this the profession it deserves to be. Tue, 08 May 2012 01:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ShogunofHarlem http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1517 ShogunofHarlem Sat, 01 May 2010 14:19:31 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1517 Very perceptive. This article is a huge whine fest regarding a huge gap in pay and education between nurses and paramedics at a particular company. The nurses make roughly double the paramedics pay. Also, this ambulance is apparently "decked out with all the bells and whistles". There is a lot of jealousy and going on. Very perceptive. This article is a huge whine fest regarding a huge gap in pay and education between nurses and paramedics at a particular company. The nurses make roughly double the paramedics pay. Also, this ambulance is apparently “decked out with all the bells and whistles”. There is a lot of jealousy and going on.

]]> By: ShogunofHarlem http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1516 ShogunofHarlem Sat, 01 May 2010 14:09:36 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1516 It's all about triage. Sometimes it is hard to understand and sometimes people fall through the cracks. It is sometimes impossible to help everyone. Maybe we can get some real health care reform and fix this problem. As long as we have businessmen deciding what is an appropriate number of health care workers staffed, whether they be paramedics or nurses, the community loses. It's all about triage. Sometimes it is hard to understand and sometimes people fall through the cracks. It is sometimes impossible to help everyone. Maybe we can get some real health care reform and fix this problem. As long as we have businessmen deciding what is an appropriate number of health care workers staffed, whether they be paramedics or nurses, the community loses.

]]> By: ShogunofHarlem http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1373 ShogunofHarlem Sat, 01 May 2010 10:19:31 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1373 Very perceptive. This article is a huge whine fest regarding a huge gap in pay and education between nurses and paramedics at a particular company. The nurses make roughly double the paramedics pay. Also, this ambulance is apparently "decked out with all the bells and whistles". There is a lot of jealousy and going on. Very perceptive. This article is a huge whine fest regarding a huge gap in pay and education between nurses and paramedics at a particular company. The nurses make roughly double the paramedics pay. Also, this ambulance is apparently “decked out with all the bells and whistles”. There is a lot of jealousy and going on.

]]> By: ShogunofHarlem http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1372 ShogunofHarlem Sat, 01 May 2010 10:09:36 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1372 It's all about triage. Sometimes it is hard to understand and sometimes people fall through the cracks. It is sometimes impossible to help everyone. Maybe we can get some real health care reform and fix this problem. As long as we have businessmen deciding what is an appropriate number of health care workers staffed, whether they be paramedics or nurses, the community loses. It's all about triage. Sometimes it is hard to understand and sometimes people fall through the cracks. It is sometimes impossible to help everyone. Maybe we can get some real health care reform and fix this problem. As long as we have businessmen deciding what is an appropriate number of health care workers staffed, whether they be paramedics or nurses, the community loses.

]]> By: Andy http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1371 Andy Sat, 01 May 2010 04:00:49 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1371 Hillary - In fact you are correct...the first several nurses who were hired to staff these units were already employed with the company as a Paramedic long before the IFT RN business came along. Hillary – In fact you are correct…the first several nurses who were hired to staff these units were already employed with the company as a Paramedic long before the IFT RN business came along.

]]> By: fire http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1357 fire Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:37:48 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1357 never asked to be a hero, thats not what im saying, and my college degrees are in community service, and a masters in public administration, and homeland security. I am not a professional I am a volunteer because i do care about the community. If you have some pent up aggression about firefighters you should have that checked. I do agree there are too many people that think they know what they are doing that really don't. I am saddened that you had a bad impression of the fire service and quit. it is a true shame when the fire service loses people who are "certified." to simply dismiss my comments because i am just a "firefighter" is very egocentric, and down right rude. Don't lump me into a preconcieved category of what you think simply because we wear the same uniform perhaps that could be a source of the division right there. you automatically assume i have barely a high school education, and am missing my front teeth simply because im a "firefighter." I commit one night every week to riding the ambulance for 6 hours, and i recognize this as the growing trend among the fire service. I just find it fun and enjoyable to help people wether its on a fire truck, ambulance, trash truck, or my gov't window office at work. With those remarks i hope you don't catch on fire in your big town, they might be too stupid to put you out. never asked to be a hero, thats not what im saying, and my college degrees are in community service, and a masters in public administration, and homeland security. I am not a professional I am a volunteer because i do care about the community. If you have some pent up aggression about firefighters you should have that checked. I do agree there are too many people that think they know what they are doing that really don't. I am saddened that you had a bad impression of the fire service and quit. it is a true shame when the fire service loses people who are “certified.” to simply dismiss my comments because i am just a “firefighter” is very egocentric, and down right rude. Don't lump me into a preconcieved category of what you think simply because we wear the same uniform perhaps that could be a source of the division right there. you automatically assume i have barely a high school education, and am missing my front teeth simply because im a “firefighter.” I commit one night every week to riding the ambulance for 6 hours, and i recognize this as the growing trend among the fire service. I just find it fun and enjoyable to help people wether its on a fire truck, ambulance, trash truck, or my gov't window office at work. With those remarks i hope you don't catch on fire in your big town, they might be too stupid to put you out.

]]> By: fire http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1356 fire Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:37:48 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1356 never asked to be a hero, thats not what im saying, and my college degrees are in community service, and a masters in public administration, and homeland security. I am not a professional I am a volunteer because i do care about the community. If you have some pent up aggression about firefighters you should have that checked. I do agree there are too many people that think they know what they are doing that really don't. I am saddened that you had a bad impression of the fire service and quit. it is a true shame when the fire service loses people who are "certified." to simply dismiss my comments because i am just a "firefighter" is very egocentric, and down right rude. Don't lump me into a preconcieved category of what you think simply because we wear the same uniform perhaps that could be a source of the division right there. you automatically assume i have barely a high school education, and am missing my front teeth simply because im a "firefighter." I commit one night every week to riding the ambulance for 6 hours, and i recognize this as the growing trend among the fire service. I just find it fun and enjoyable to help people wether its on a fire truck, ambulance, trash truck, or my gov't window office at work. With those remarks i hope you don't catch on fire in your big town, they might be too stupid to put you out. never asked to be a hero, thats not what im saying, and my college degrees are in community service, and a masters in public administration, and homeland security. I am not a professional I am a volunteer because i do care about the community. If you have some pent up aggression about firefighters you should have that checked. I do agree there are too many people that think they know what they are doing that really don't. I am saddened that you had a bad impression of the fire service and quit. it is a true shame when the fire service loses people who are “certified.” to simply dismiss my comments because i am just a “firefighter” is very egocentric, and down right rude. Don't lump me into a preconcieved category of what you think simply because we wear the same uniform perhaps that could be a source of the division right there. you automatically assume i have barely a high school education, and am missing my front teeth simply because im a “firefighter.” I commit one night every week to riding the ambulance for 6 hours, and i recognize this as the growing trend among the fire service. I just find it fun and enjoyable to help people wether its on a fire truck, ambulance, trash truck, or my gov't window office at work. With those remarks i hope you don't catch on fire in your big town, they might be too stupid to put you out.

]]> By: The EMT Spot » The April EMS Roundup http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1353 The EMT Spot » The April EMS Roundup Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:22:30 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1353 [...] the term “customer service” in EMS. Chris Kaiser got all riled up over what he felt was a slap in the face to medics everywhere. Michael Morse told us about what it’s like when you have nothing left. Jaramedic had [...] [...] the term “customer service” in EMS. Chris Kaiser got all riled up over what he felt was a slap in the face to medics everywhere. Michael Morse told us about what it’s like when you have nothing left. Jaramedic had [...]

]]> By: Jill http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1344 Jill Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:00:06 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1344 Continued - DIED later? And you had to have them wait for the nurse? Even though you knew that something bad was happening?<br><br>You had already called for help and the ER was so busy, you couldn't GET help? And you just stood there with the patient. <br><br>And you tried to catch a nurse's attention....saying, "Hey!" and the nurses looked at you like, "What? I'm busy?<br><br>Again...you are all my heroes....but for heaven's sake...get it together Continued – DIED later? And you had to have them wait for the nurse? Even though you knew that something bad was happening?

You had already called for help and the ER was so busy, you couldn't GET help? And you just stood there with the patient.

And you tried to catch a nurse's attention….saying, “Hey!” and the nurses looked at you like, “What? I'm busy?

Again…you are all my heroes….but for heaven's sake…get it together

]]> By: Jill http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/04/a-slap-in-the-face-for-medics-how-about-a-wake-up-call/comment-page-1/#comment-1345 Jill Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:55:21 +0000 http://lifeunderthelights.com/?p=817#comment-1345 You guys seem to be pretty pissy about this post. All I want to say is...everyone posting here, you are heroes to me. All I ever did was work the front desk of a Trauma Center for five years....before said hospital (after I quit) decided to take the advice I gave them and put a medically trained person at the desk. I mean, I had a triage nurse in the office behind me, but if she was in the back, I had to slap a pulse ox on a diff breathing patient in order to know whether or not to bother the folks in back. (Because if I ran someone back there, they looked evilly upon me...after all, I was BOTHERING them sometimes). I had to help stroke patients into wheelchairs...and then wheeee....we went to the back....and I was looked evilly upon...while I said..."Left-sided weakness!" I had to plead with some nurses from the back to PLEASE help a guy in the toilet who was bleeding out in the lobby. (He really WAS bleeding out...)<br><br>I don't know HOW many times I may have saved a life. And you all talk so expertly that I imagine you would shit me out of your extraordinarily educated pants...just because....<br><br>OMG...You are much more educated.<br><br>You are. You guys are my heroes. So quit bitching and fighting. <br><br>It's frustrating. I am the person who brings food to the (whatever emergency location) when you have to be there on the holidays.<br><br>I am just a soul. I sat at the front desk of a Trauma Center for five years and took crap from some nurses (sorry, nurses...my mom was a nurse...but you guys can be brutal)...I took crap from doctors...(when I was alone and freaked because a diff breathing came in and was a frequent flyer)....and I didn't know it was a panic attack...<br><br>I used to love it when the paramedics came in. That's why I had my candy jar. On a terrible day, when some medics came in and were waiting for their paperwork, and hell on earth was happening in the lobby...it wasn't the nurses who helped....it was the paramedics who had my lonely back.<br><br>I love you all...but quit yer bitchin'. You think you are special...Win twice on Jeopardy, then get back to me.<br><br>I had ZERO training. <br><br>ZERO...when the local hospital put me at the front desk of the Trauma Center.<br><br>You can imagine all the things I saw, right? You can imagine the terribleness of having a patient in front of you that You guys seem to be pretty pissy about this post. All I want to say is…everyone posting here, you are heroes to me. All I ever did was work the front desk of a Trauma Center for five years….before said hospital (after I quit) decided to take the advice I gave them and put a medically trained person at the desk. I mean, I had a triage nurse in the office behind me, but if she was in the back, I had to slap a pulse ox on a diff breathing patient in order to know whether or not to bother the folks in back. (Because if I ran someone back there, they looked evilly upon me…after all, I was BOTHERING them sometimes). I had to help stroke patients into wheelchairs…and then wheeee….we went to the back….and I was looked evilly upon…while I said…”Left-sided weakness!” I had to plead with some nurses from the back to PLEASE help a guy in the toilet who was bleeding out in the lobby. (He really WAS bleeding out…)

I don't know HOW many times I may have saved a life. And you all talk so expertly that I imagine you would shit me out of your extraordinarily educated pants…just because….

OMG…You are much more educated.

You are. You guys are my heroes. So quit bitching and fighting.

It's frustrating. I am the person who brings food to the (whatever emergency location) when you have to be there on the holidays.

I am just a soul. I sat at the front desk of a Trauma Center for five years and took crap from some nurses (sorry, nurses…my mom was a nurse…but you guys can be brutal)…I took crap from doctors…(when I was alone and freaked because a diff breathing came in and was a frequent flyer)….and I didn't know it was a panic attack…

I used to love it when the paramedics came in. That's why I had my candy jar. On a terrible day, when some medics came in and were waiting for their paperwork, and hell on earth was happening in the lobby…it wasn't the nurses who helped….it was the paramedics who had my lonely back.

I love you all…but quit yer bitchin'. You think you are special…Win twice on Jeopardy, then get back to me.

I had ZERO training.

ZERO…when the local hospital put me at the front desk of the Trauma Center.

You can imagine all the things I saw, right? You can imagine the terribleness of having a patient in front of you that

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