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		<title>By: GAFlyingmedic</title>
		<link>http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/06/master-paramedics-im-asking-you-a-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1866</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question, but at the same time, I believe this to be a moot point.  Regardless, I will inject my 2 cents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Over my 13 years in EMS, I have collected virtually all of the letters one can, and I am able to put more initials behind my name than are in my name.  And I&#039;m German.  I have spent over 10 years of post high school education earning them. They include a BS, MPH, NREMT, CCEMT-P, FPC, PNCCT, CICP, RN, BSN, CCRN and some others I am certain that I am forgetting.  My certifications do not garner me on ounce of respect, however, as I have been known to miss intubations and blow IVs.  And, on that note, were you to be impressed by my certifications and/or title alone, I would be suspect.  The bottom line is, there is nothing that the Paramedic who just sewed his patch on his shirt can&#039;t do that I can.  Period.  We all intubate, pump on chests, stick needles in veins and give medications.  And yes, we all even drive the ambulance.  Our colleagues know who the &quot;Master&quot; medics are.  And that&#039;s the way it should be.  I strive for excellence in care, and deeper knowledge, not your respect or awe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The more we bitch and moan about being called &quot;ambulance drivers&quot; and wanting national unions or groups or whatever, the further behind the 8 ball we get.  The only way to get ahead in our business is to continually show your colleagues that you are more intelligent than your job requires.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I feel much better now.  Thank you so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question, but at the same time, I believe this to be a moot point.  Regardless, I will inject my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Over my 13 years in EMS, I have collected virtually all of the letters one can, and I am able to put more initials behind my name than are in my name.  And I&#39;m German.  I have spent over 10 years of post high school education earning them. They include a BS, MPH, NREMT, CCEMT-P, FPC, PNCCT, CICP, RN, BSN, CCRN and some others I am certain that I am forgetting.  My certifications do not garner me on ounce of respect, however, as I have been known to miss intubations and blow IVs.  And, on that note, were you to be impressed by my certifications and/or title alone, I would be suspect.  The bottom line is, there is nothing that the Paramedic who just sewed his patch on his shirt can&#39;t do that I can.  Period.  We all intubate, pump on chests, stick needles in veins and give medications.  And yes, we all even drive the ambulance.  Our colleagues know who the &#8220;Master&#8221; medics are.  And that&#39;s the way it should be.  I strive for excellence in care, and deeper knowledge, not your respect or awe.</p>
<p>The more we bitch and moan about being called &#8220;ambulance drivers&#8221; and wanting national unions or groups or whatever, the further behind the 8 ball we get.  The only way to get ahead in our business is to continually show your colleagues that you are more intelligent than your job requires.  </p>
<p>I feel much better now.  Thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: FLGangstaFlightMedic</title>
		<link>http://lifeunderthelights.com/2010/06/master-paramedics-im-asking-you-a-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1839</link>
		<dc:creator>FLGangstaFlightMedic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for all those who think CCEMT-P is above an EMT- P you are sorely mistaken, CCEMT-P is a class, the certification above EMT-P is either CCP-C or one above that FP-C. CICP is equivalent to CCEMT-P and actualy prepares graduates to pass the FP-C witch most consider to be a &quot;Master Paramedic.&quot; My suggestion is to take your Critical Care curriculum, take your FP-C and continue for education, and who knows one day you might just be on the whirrlybird placing chest tubes and other out of the standard scop of practice for an EMT-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all those who think CCEMT-P is above an EMT- P you are sorely mistaken, CCEMT-P is a class, the certification above EMT-P is either CCP-C or one above that FP-C. CICP is equivalent to CCEMT-P and actualy prepares graduates to pass the FP-C witch most consider to be a &#8220;Master Paramedic.&#8221; My suggestion is to take your Critical Care curriculum, take your FP-C and continue for education, and who knows one day you might just be on the whirrlybird placing chest tubes and other out of the standard scop of practice for an EMT-P</p>
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		<title>By: Orlandomedic1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orlandomedic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 06:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen</description>
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		<title>By: Has hard is the FP-C (Flight Paramedic-Certification) test for Paramedics??? &#124; Patient Transport Services</title>
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		<dc:creator>Has hard is the FP-C (Flight Paramedic-Certification) test for Paramedics??? &#124; Patient Transport Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Has hard is the FP-C (Flight Paramedic-Certification) test for Paramedics??? &#124; Air Ambulance Services</title>
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		<dc:creator>Has hard is the FP-C (Flight Paramedic-Certification) test for Paramedics??? &#124; Air Ambulance Services</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Trial begins in death of 3-year-old &#8211; Albany Times Union &#124; Stethoscope Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rhunic_Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhunic_Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the part that pretty much set me to the negative.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Acknowledgement by Peers:  The Master Paramedic or EMT should have the support and admiration of his colleagues, coworkers, and peers and should be able to get them to vouch for him or her when asked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Up until then I was on board. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A person is respected or admired based on their actions. Not their title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the part that pretty much set me to the negative.</p>
<p>Acknowledgement by Peers:  The Master Paramedic or EMT should have the support and admiration of his colleagues, coworkers, and peers and should be able to get them to vouch for him or her when asked.</p>
<p>Up until then I was on board. </p>
<p>A person is respected or admired based on their actions. Not their title.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhunic_Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhunic_Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got it all wrong. I think everyone who works in EMS should strive for greatness in their profession at all times. Also yes there are people who are &quot;cook book&quot; medic&#039;s who never think outside the box for treatment and I would guess don&#039;t care about their patients or really care about the outcome of patient care. Should there be a Bachelors in prehospital care? Sure. I would have it right now if it was available. I believe that constant education and re-education are vital to EMS because you never know what the next call will bring you. But having to have a title of &quot;Master Paramedic&quot; makes me angry. To me it just screams EGO TRIP!!! I am a Paramedic and have been for 6 years. In my time around the block I have seen a lot of very bad, and a lot of very good Paramedic&#039;s. I normally wouldn&#039;t comment but today for some reason that whole &quot;Master Paramedic&quot; thing struck a nerve. If it did exist I would go for it. But not so that I could walk around telling my peers that they need to respect and admire me because I am a &quot;Master Paramedic.&quot; It would be to know that when I am called to duty that I am giving the best care possible.  You probably didn&#039;t mean it this way but to me when I read your post it just sounds like all you want is another title behind your name for bragging rights. Also on a side note I am sorry about your long week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got it all wrong. I think everyone who works in EMS should strive for greatness in their profession at all times. Also yes there are people who are &#8220;cook book&#8221; medic&#39;s who never think outside the box for treatment and I would guess don&#39;t care about their patients or really care about the outcome of patient care. Should there be a Bachelors in prehospital care? Sure. I would have it right now if it was available. I believe that constant education and re-education are vital to EMS because you never know what the next call will bring you. But having to have a title of &#8220;Master Paramedic&#8221; makes me angry. To me it just screams EGO TRIP!!! I am a Paramedic and have been for 6 years. In my time around the block I have seen a lot of very bad, and a lot of very good Paramedic&#39;s. I normally wouldn&#39;t comment but today for some reason that whole &#8220;Master Paramedic&#8221; thing struck a nerve. If it did exist I would go for it. But not so that I could walk around telling my peers that they need to respect and admire me because I am a &#8220;Master Paramedic.&#8221; It would be to know that when I am called to duty that I am giving the best care possible.  You probably didn&#39;t mean it this way but to me when I read your post it just sounds like all you want is another title behind your name for bragging rights. Also on a side note I am sorry about your long week.</p>
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		<title>By: Ckemtp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ckemtp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhunic:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  I read your comment here on my blackberry while waiting in line for lunch during the back half of my 48hr shift. We&#039;re picking up burritos after working a GI bleed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why am I saying this? Well, I wanted some personal back story before I dropped this. When I read your comment I thought: &quot;Here is a guy who just doesn&#039;t get it&quot;. I don&#039;t necessarily mean that as an insult. I don&#039;t mean that you don&#039;t get the post, I mean you don&#039;t get the whole EMS thing. Sure, you may be an exemplary medic, or EMT, or what have you (although, I&#039;m guessing EMT) but in your comments I read that you think that all paramedics, EMTs, and EMS in general do is play the role of &quot;Cookbook Following Skills Monkey&quot; and that experience and farther-than-base knowledge doesn&#039;t do all that much for patient care... And well, respectfully, that means that your perspective is limited by either your own ego or your own lack of experience. It could be a fault of your preceptors or your service... But I could also blame the pervasive attitude among some EMS people to downplay the skills truly required to master the job and downplay those who strive for true mastery.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That attitude, the belief that this EMS stuff isn&#039;t all that important and the belief that &quot;I have a medic patch now!! I&#039;m just as good as THAT guy with the grey hair!&quot; Are dangerous. Time to rethink some things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, I don&#039;t usually attack back on my commenters, but you caught me on a 100hr work week with barely any sleep. I&#039;m cranky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhunic:</p>
<p>  I read your comment here on my blackberry while waiting in line for lunch during the back half of my 48hr shift. We&#39;re picking up burritos after working a GI bleed.</p>
<p>Why am I saying this? Well, I wanted some personal back story before I dropped this. When I read your comment I thought: &#8220;Here is a guy who just doesn&#39;t get it&#8221;. I don&#39;t necessarily mean that as an insult. I don&#39;t mean that you don&#39;t get the post, I mean you don&#39;t get the whole EMS thing. Sure, you may be an exemplary medic, or EMT, or what have you (although, I&#39;m guessing EMT) but in your comments I read that you think that all paramedics, EMTs, and EMS in general do is play the role of &#8220;Cookbook Following Skills Monkey&#8221; and that experience and farther-than-base knowledge doesn&#39;t do all that much for patient care&#8230; And well, respectfully, that means that your perspective is limited by either your own ego or your own lack of experience. It could be a fault of your preceptors or your service&#8230; But I could also blame the pervasive attitude among some EMS people to downplay the skills truly required to master the job and downplay those who strive for true mastery.</p>
<p>That attitude, the belief that this EMS stuff isn&#39;t all that important and the belief that &#8220;I have a medic patch now!! I&#39;m just as good as THAT guy with the grey hair!&#8221; Are dangerous. Time to rethink some things.</p>
<p>Sorry, I don&#39;t usually attack back on my commenters, but you caught me on a 100hr work week with barely any sleep. I&#39;m cranky.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhunic_Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhunic_Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t we already have a ranking system for EMS? Hence EMT-B, EMT-I, EMT-P and CCEMT-P. Having a &quot;Master Paramedic&quot; status don&#039;t seem like anything but an ego title. Unless it came with a higher pay grade, I don&#039;t see it meaning anything. I don&#039;t want to be a negative Nancy but all Paramedics are ruled over by their respective SMO&#039;s and PPO&#039;s, so having a title to say &quot;I&#039;m better then you because, I&#039;m a MASTER Paramedic.&quot; Isn&#039;t going to mean anything when you can still only work within the limits of your SMO&#039;s, that all Paramedic&#039;s in your system are using. You want to be a &quot;Master Paramedic?&quot; Goto med school become a doctor, and then run on the ambulance for medic pay. Some Paramedics are better then other&#039;s for sure but a true &quot;Master Paramedic&quot; doesn&#039;t need a title to do what he or she does best, they do it because they love the job, and because that&#039;s what they were meant to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t we already have a ranking system for EMS? Hence EMT-B, EMT-I, EMT-P and CCEMT-P. Having a &#8220;Master Paramedic&#8221; status don&#39;t seem like anything but an ego title. Unless it came with a higher pay grade, I don&#39;t see it meaning anything. I don&#39;t want to be a negative Nancy but all Paramedics are ruled over by their respective SMO&#39;s and PPO&#39;s, so having a title to say &#8220;I&#39;m better then you because, I&#39;m a MASTER Paramedic.&#8221; Isn&#39;t going to mean anything when you can still only work within the limits of your SMO&#39;s, that all Paramedic&#39;s in your system are using. You want to be a &#8220;Master Paramedic?&#8221; Goto med school become a doctor, and then run on the ambulance for medic pay. Some Paramedics are better then other&#39;s for sure but a true &#8220;Master Paramedic&#8221; doesn&#39;t need a title to do what he or she does best, they do it because they love the job, and because that&#39;s what they were meant to do.</p>
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